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Message Posted: May 4, 2012 3:17:43 PM

If it ever was a secret, it’s not a secret any longer: The Obama Administration is on a vindictive campaign to injure America’s oil and gas industry. The proof materialized last week when video of an Environmental Protection Agency official revealed the White House’s vicious attitude toward the very industries that supply the American people a reliable, affordable energy source. Yesterday, that official fell on his sword and resigned to spare the president any further embarrassment from the truth he disclosed. President Obama has said he favors an “all of the above” strategy when it comes to energy policy. “All of the above” apparently means taking no prisoners as he marches toward a “greener” future, regardless of what it costs the American people.
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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: May 15, 2012 7:54:59 PM

Here's a little levity.....

A man died and went to heaven. As he stood in front of St. Peter 
at the Pearly Gates, he saw a huge wall of clocks behind him...
He asked, What are all those clocks?
St. Peter answered, Those are Lie Clocks. Everyone on Earth has a 
Lie Clock.
Every time you lie the hands on your clock
will move.
Oh,' said the man, 'whose clock is that?'That's Mother Teresa's. 
The hands have never moved, indicating that she
never told a lie.
Incredible, said the man. 'And whose clock is that one?
St. Peter responded, 'That's Abraham Lincoln's clock. The
hands 
have moved twice, telling us that Abe told only two lies in his 
entire life.'
Do you have one for President Obama?' asked the man.
Obama's clock is in Jesus' office. 
He's using it as a ceiling fan.
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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: May 14, 2012 2:50:20 PM

LOL, has the gnu been here doing the "hopium hop"?
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KAR120CSII
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Message Posted: May 13, 2012 2:13:34 AM

Give it to them Gnus -- unfortunately I can't read their diatribes -- they are off in the ether zone -- via the 'Ignore' button. I don't have your patience in dealing with them. Keep it up tho' -- I bet it drives them crazy --
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: May 9, 2012 9:33:00 AM

It also shows the extent of the dementia present in the Heritage..... or was that just a prerequisite for being employed there.....
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: May 9, 2012 9:29:41 AM

Seems it is Heritage is the one with a proven "vindictive" attitude....... as well as some of the posters.....

That is truly sad.
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: May 7, 2012 9:55:59 AM

Must be a byproduct of that toxic hairball of freakish fantasy that he is trying to get everybody else to swallow....(grin).

Sorry soda... I'm not that GULLIBLE
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 11:15:38 PM

seems McSoda still is running scared from facts... poor thing...apparently he is proud to be hopelessly addicted to fantasies...
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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 8:41:55 PM

Well, I see there have been replies from either Skywarn or Gnu, of course they're both on my ignore list (the only two) because they're incapable of reasoning, 'hopium' tends to do that to folks you know! :=)
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 7:01:13 PM

Poor hypocrit.....

You mean that nasty cap and trade plan that was a republican idea and plan....until Obama supported it?????? The same one that the GOP used years ago to cut acid rain --- successfully?

How dare that evil Obama...agree with a Republican plan that worked!!!!! (BFG)(BTW, that's big full grin)
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 6:55:02 PM

Well said db60....Remember the rest of "Demons run...."

We are the "good men"....

But sure seems like a lot of "Headless Monks" in the neighborhood... (grin)
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 6:48:24 PM

Okay more full Monty of Heritage for you... and just focused on this "article"..... (actually because I could exceed War & Peace in documenting the less than factual nature of Heritage...
PART 2

LIE 1) "Lest there be any doubt, it’s worth reiterating the point — according to Armendariz, the EPA views its enforcement efforts as a violent crucifixion used to strong arm companies into submission. The Constitution bars cruel and unusual punishment, but evidently that doesn’t apply to the axe-wielding EPA when it comes to enforcing regulations."...

FANTASY/FALSE AND A LIE-
When has a CEO been crucified - literally - in America. The term "crucify" was used to make an example of the evildoer who broke the law... But then, Heritage is famous for being more than lenient to corporate criminals....LIE-2)"None of this, though, should be a surprise coming from what very well may be the most anti-energy administration in history...."

FANTASY/FALSE & LIE:
Interesting how an "anti-energy" administration has done more to improve our overall use and technology in the energy sector.... especially with renewable resources....
LIE 3/4/5...et al.- "For the president and his cadre of bureaucrats, “Big Oil” is the enemy that deserves to be beaten into submission.
Exhibit A: The president’s unremitting crusade to raise taxes on the oil industry by denying it access to tax credits available to other industries. This, of course, is a game of semantics and populist rhetoric. In his appeal to the American people, the president is claiming that oil and gas companies enjoy special loopholes and subsidies that need to be eliminated. In reality, they get the same tax treatment enjoyed by producers of clothing, roads, electricity, water, and many other goods manufactured in the United States.

FANTASY/FALSE?LIE: Hmmm... seem to remember Bush 43 putting in special tax credits and aids when oil went under $20 a barrel....

Now the MOST PROFITABLE companies in the history of the world want more taxpayer money. Sorry, no need for corporate welfare when the companies are breaking profit records almost every quarter.

--

LIE - "When President Obama lashes out at “Big Oil,” guess who’s going to pay the price? You. First, raising taxes on any company means that the costs will be passed on to consumers. If you’re tired of paying high gas prices, you would pay even more if the president levies new costs on the industry that is supplying your fuel.

FANTASY/FALSE/LIE -- Americans are paying at the pump and them again for the giveaways to the oil companies as taxpayers...

--

LIE - "..when the president talks about “Big Oil,” keep in mind who “Big Oil” is — it could very well be you.
Thirty-one percent of U.S. oil and natural gas shares are owned by public or private pension plans. On top of that, individual retirement accounts hold 18 percent of shares, individual investors have 21 percent, and asset management companies including mutual funds account for 21 percent — comprising more than 90 percent of oil and gas stocks in 2011. That means when those companies profit, there’s a good chance you profit. And when those companies suffer, there’s a good chance that you suffer, too.

FANTASY/FALSE/LIE -- So nice straw man ... to claim that big oil is all Americans. Sorry...I don't remember telling the oil companies to cut corners so they could flood the Gulf of Mexico with millions of gallons of toxic chemicals... and by the way,, since when has the oil companies really listened to their shareholders..

WARNING BALONEY SLICE ALERT!!!!!!!
That doesn’t matter, though, to an Administration that is in an unyielding pursuit of a singular “green” agenda. Billions in taxpayer dollars are spent to fund solar companies that go bankrupt and to give tax credits to wealthy Americans so they can buy a handful of electric vehicles.

FANTASY/FALSE/LIE.... The author(?) is wrong and shows it. Singular is one. Not two. Seems the author can't count.....in addition to the hit piece's other problems. Solar is one. The US history is littered with companies going out of business or having massive financial problems. Just dealing with solar, the author ignored the fact that the Chinese are dumping their solar product in the United States. As to tax credits to buyers... most of those are state by state.... so unless Obama is the governor of California and didn't know it...along with other states...LIE- AGAIN: "Meanwhile, the president’s Secretary of Energy, Steven Chu, gives himself an “A” for his work in lowering gas prices, despite their reaching all-time highs under his watch.

FANTASY/FALSE/LIE....
Sorry Charlie..... you bad tuna.... the gasoline prices have not hit an all-time high under Obama. "W" still holds the record. At my local station, it was $4.79 under Bush. Sorry. Not there this time. By the way, why is the Heritage claiming high prices are a problem, but not the more than 50 cent increase caused by speculators.....? If it is bad as a high price, then isn't one of the causes also bad???? But they like the speculators...(grin). They haven't called for enforcing rules against speculation.....LIE- AGAIN......-"And all the while, the president is saying “NO” to domestic energy exploration, including his decision to block the Keystone XL pipeline."

FANTASY/FALSE/LIE......Obama hasn't said no to domestic energy exploration (LIE). Blocking the Keystone XL???? That was done by NEBRASKA (its GOP governor and legislature). The full route has not been approved by all the states and sent for submission with the entire route approved.
BY THE WAY... it should not be approved until the company shows it can stop and clean up any spill QUICKLY and COMPLETELY. And that proof should be in the real world... not some pr document fiction.
So show the world TransCanada how you would clean up a spill. Enbridge has provided you an excellent example -- a tar sands spill that hasn't been cleaned up in almost TWO YEARS since it contaminated part of the Kalamazoo river.....

YET ANOTHER LIE....."In fact, though his words were vivid, they were all too accurate. The Obama Administration has an obvious political agenda that is not focused on enforcing rules, but on vindictively assaulting an industry that doesn’t comport with its green agenda — even though Americans depend on oil and gas companies each and every day...."

FANTASY/FALSE/LIE.....

The official was talking in the video about companies breaking the law... sometimes with impunity and visions of political immunity.

Sorry Heritage...that Baloney Slices "doesn't comport" with truth.Let us know when you start dealing in facts Heritage.... instead of baloney slices all the time...SO sorry soda ...more of your fantasies destroyed..... time to graduate to reality.... and facts.
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 5:45:42 PM

As usual, Texas' soda doc proves he can't see.... or that he needs work on comprehension skills...

Soda..... I gave you a full monty of the fact-free nature of the Heritage fantasy blog...

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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 3:56:22 PM

I see no one wants to answer the question I asked of Bicycle1966 and Letmeeatcake, instead of arguing the source perhaps you would like to point out what you think is not factual?
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 11:02:21 AM

So soda.. to help you with facts....

1)The Obama Administration is on a vindictive campaign to injure America’s oil and gas industry.

FANTASY ----

2)The proof materialized last week when video of an Environmental Protection Agency official revealed the White House’s vicious attitude toward the very industries that supply the American people a reliable, affordable energy source.

FANTASY----

All that came out is that an official wanted laws to be enforced on companies trying to get away with criminal acts. Did he say "crucify" the innocent and law-abiding????? NO!!!!!
But soda, his friends and fellow screamers don't want you to notice that.
So much for those being for law and order....

3)President Obama has said he favors an “all of the above” strategy when it comes to energy policy.

TRUE (but it blew the minds at Heritage).....

4) “All of the above” apparently means taking no prisoners as he marches toward a “greener” future, regardless of what it costs the American people.

LIE (Again). But Heritage & its fellow conspirators have no problem lying at all. We are using less gasoline than we did in the last decade. We are getting vehicles with much better gas mileage, which even cuts the cost (despite the higher prices)..... Under Heritage plans, the people would still be getting much less gas mileage..... and have no other options --whether it is EVs or hybrids.I could rip apart the factless and fanciful posting from the Heritage..... but I think I have already ripped off their (figurative) fig leaf of respectability. They have NONE as a news source.As to soda doc, hopefully he will stop drinking the swill he has and discover the difference between real facts and inane fantasies...

Hmmm... who knows, maybe they fracked up his water with LSD (big grin)...

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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 10:48:10 AM

And once again, soda doc proves his fantasy-full and fact-free....

or at the very least never reads the articles with the posting.....

It might just be him.... or just a fuzzy texas thing.....(grin)
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 10:45:46 AM

That must make the Heritage a cabal of angry socialists trying to take over the country.... (grin).... (they might even be secret muslims too)... (bigger grin)..
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Gnusman53
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 10:43:39 AM

Remember when the Heritage was for a health care mandate...before Obama was called a socialist for wanting the mandate.... (grin)...
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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 8:58:27 AM

"The Heritage Foundation" - 'nuff said!
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Message Posted: May 5, 2012 10:26:49 PM

You don't know mhitt
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LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: May 5, 2012 7:33:23 PM


Who is Letmeeatcake?
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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: May 5, 2012 7:22:25 PM

Bicycle1966 and Letmeeatcake, instead of arguing the source perhaps you would like to point out what you think is not factual?

At least this opinion piece is backed up with fact and points those facts out. Completely different from the opinion piece hit job posted today from firedoglake.
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Message Posted: May 5, 2012 6:15:46 PM

Agree, another one sided opinion piece by the Heritage Foundation -- no place for it here on GasBuddy -- gosh, I wish Obama was the environmentalist these guys think he is.
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Message Posted: May 5, 2012 3:03:57 PM

interesting comments.My opinion answer to the title question-yes.I respect the right for everyone to believe what they want to,because I'm an American.
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Message Posted: May 5, 2012 1:44:56 PM

The Heritage Foundation Group is absolutely correct on this. It is President Obama and the EPA that are at fault for this but you can also partly blame oil speculators in the stock market.
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Message Posted: May 5, 2012 10:22:08 AM


Another Opinion Piece/Blog posted as 'News'. Verboten under GB guidelines.

Well said Bicycle1966!
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Message Posted: May 5, 2012 8:48:11 AM

I don't know what's worse - the super-slanted opinion article that takes so much out of context and then inflates it way beyond any possible significance it may have had, or the equally outrageous and totally irrational comments that get posted about Obama being at war with America and wanting to be king or other ridiculous and inflammatory nonsense.
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Message Posted: May 5, 2012 7:49:59 AM

Just more GOP bull$%&*! Obama 2012. Got a problem with that? Sorry, get a brain!
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Message Posted: May 5, 2012 7:12:43 AM

Obama is at war with everything that helps and supports this country (capitalism,free markets...).He wants to be King not President.
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Message Posted: May 5, 2012 4:14:07 AM

GOP BS
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Message Posted: May 5, 2012 1:48:33 AM

Obama doesn't care about us. Who did that Ahole bail out when big banks foreclosed our homes after their predatory mortgage schemes?
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Message Posted: May 5, 2012 1:21:05 AM

Heavily stitled far-right boilerplate garbage. Just because the loudest commenters here are in step with the John Birch Society doesn't mean the rest of us are.
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Message Posted: May 5, 2012 12:34:14 AM

This is not an unbiased source. Heritage foundation principals are based on conservative ideals. They would then, be more supportive of Republican vice the Liberal or Democrats.
Even the wording of the headline is inflammatory.
Truth is what should win out and not partisan politics.
Far too often, one side of the debate, ambushes the other, with an article, the was born from an opposing organization.
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Message Posted: May 5, 2012 12:20:57 AM

@ Wanda127: The libs arn't turning a blind eyes to what Obama is doing to this country; they are wide-eyed and embracing it!
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Message Posted: May 4, 2012 11:41:41 PM

Is it any wonder why Oblame-a supporters cannot stand facts? LOL.
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Message Posted: May 4, 2012 11:40:32 PM

I agree LiberalHypocrit & rbrk02. I also agree with BuckyTJones. For some reason the Liberals are turning a blind eye to what our president is doing to our country!
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Message Posted: May 4, 2012 11:30:03 PM


The opinion/blog/editorial machine is working overtime at the 'Heritage Foundation'. This is not a news article and belongs in the Political Forum, not here. You know better Piper.... Did the API generate this one too?
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Message Posted: May 4, 2012 10:22:43 PM

No, Obama is not trying to "injure" the oil and gas industry--he's trying to destroy it!

Throw the bum out!
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Message Posted: May 4, 2012 10:03:32 PM

4 more years,i fear!!
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Message Posted: May 4, 2012 9:58:58 PM

His highness is a total moron.
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Message Posted: May 4, 2012 9:42:14 PM

His green agenda includes putting fossil fuel businesses out of business.
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Message Posted: May 4, 2012 9:38:02 PM

I'm glad November 2012 is quickly approaching so the US can get back on the road to economic recovery instead of teetering on the brink of disaster due to the current administrations lack of a realistic design on energy use and development!
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Message Posted: May 4, 2012 9:34:13 PM

and the millions of people employed in oil and gas
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Message Posted: May 4, 2012 9:21:13 PM

It's absolutely shocking how many in here can so willingly look the other way when it comes to matching Obama's words with his actions.

Everything in this article is a fact except it left out what the EPA has already done to the coal industry and what Obama himself said about "bankrupting" coal fired electricity plants through Cap & Trade laws.

Seriously, how much more proof do you people need to see that Obama is certainly not trying to help, promote, encourage, support, benefit, or advance the oil & gas industry. Remember the drilling moratorium , Keystone pipeline, reduced number of permits on federal lands, and hundreds of new regulations. Compare that to the free money giveaways to the already financially troubled Solar & EV industry that the DOE clearly ignored and shoveled money to.

And for the last time, a "tax break" is not the same as a "subsidy". A tax break lets you "keep some of your own money" and a subsidy "gives you some of other people's money". How are those even remotely similar or comparable?!
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Message Posted: May 4, 2012 9:03:07 PM


While this is no question an opinion piece, the administration no doubt favors green energy sources.

These green sources are in no way ready to replace the oil and gas that are being so vilified.

BuckyTJones, once again very, very nice!
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Message Posted: May 4, 2012 8:37:28 PM

Gotta consider the source here, no pretense of impartiality. That said I have no problem with the EPA holding oil and gas firms feet to the fire. Make them responsible for their actions. Hold them to the regulations. They get millions in government subsidies and then cry about it being too little.
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Message Posted: May 4, 2012 7:39:20 PM

Big O. is a professional politician. He only does things his master says to do and seldom does that help the average US citizen.
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Message Posted: May 4, 2012 7:27:39 PM

ahhhhh... more posters passing gas.... not facts....
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Message Posted: May 4, 2012 7:16:01 PM

No surprise her! Obama is against everything and anything which has and continues to make America great. It is all part of his Alinsky/Marxist agenda designed to destroy capitalism and America.
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Message Posted: May 4, 2012 6:49:15 PM

Bull!
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Message Posted: May 4, 2012 6:37:46 PM

Bunch of wind bags.
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